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Serious Sam · 16.03.2017 14:16 MSK
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I'd like to know whether these Skodas were Henschel-inspired... Great pic!

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Serious Sam · 08.03.2017 13:27 MSK
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Цитата (Владимир (гость), 07.03.2017):
> Его на 8 маршрут надо...

And than we will have all-modern-fleet on 8 and all-lumber on others. This ain't fair! There has to be an equipoise. I never use 8 but frequently take up 9, I'm tired of climbing up these rollercoaster stairs with my cane! Henceforward, we need at least one low-floor wagon on every route.

И затем мы будем иметь на 8 только современный подвижной состав, а на остальных маршрутах будет одно старьё. Это не честно! Должен быть баланс. Я никогда не езжу на 8, но часто добираюсь на 9, я уже устал лазить по этим американским горкам с моей тростью! А с этим следует, что нам нужен минимум один низкопольный вагон на каждом маршруте.

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Serious Sam · 04.03.2017 12:11 MSK
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So, will we ever behold this LiAZ in the act? //

Итак, увидим ли мы когда-нибудь этот ЛиАЗ в действии?

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Serious Sam · 08.02.2017 13:59 MSK
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LAZ No. 105 needs a substitute for a rear axle. And ZF portal axles are quite costly. //

ЛАЗ № 105 нуждается в замене заднего моста. И портальные мосты ZF весьма недешевые.

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Serious Sam · 06.02.2017 16:09 MSK
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This LAZ trolleybus No. 008 occasionally operates on line 11 and 25. //
Это троллейбус "ЛАЗ" №008 иногда работает на линиях 11 и 25.

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Serious Sam · 01.02.2017 23:21 MSK
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These LAZes do not have neither frames nor chassis. Check out the manufacturer's exploitation guidebook. It is a body truss. Correct the subtitle. //
Эти ЛАЗы не имеют ни рам, ни шасси. Посмотрите в заводское руководство по эксплуатации. Это является фермой кузова. Исправьте подпись.

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Serious Sam · 28.01.2017 22:07 MSK
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I've got a better picture of the cockpit, without the driver. Will it be eligible for publication? //

Я имею лучшее фото приборной панели, без водителя. Будет ли оно годным для публикации?

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Serious Sam · 28.01.2017 22:02 MSK
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Цитата (Ярослав Любецкий, 28.01.2017):
> А что, в Украине уже не производят нержавеющую сталь?

I do not know precisely. The main engineer of Electron told me that the steel used for the body assemblage is made in Turkey.
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Я не знаю точно. Главный инженер Электрона рассказал мне, что сталь, которая используется при изготовлении кузова сделана в Турции.
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Serious Sam · 28.01.2017 20:22 MSK
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Цитата (Electrotransman, 28.01.2017):
> кузов у них из нержавейки

You are right. The carcass superstructures and sidepanel sheathing of the E19 series are made of Turkish stainless steel. The model E19102 has got a Ukrainian asynchronous motor, namely Electrotyazmash "АД903У3" and an ENI-ZNT-200 traction pulse converter made by a Polish enterprise Enika sp. z o. o. What as to MAZ, I'm not acknowledged concerning their bodies or any other specifications.

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Вы правы. Структуры каркаса и обшивка боковых панелей кузова серии Е19 изготовлены из турецкой нержавеющей стали. Модель E19102 имеет украинский асинхронный тяговый двигатель, а именно, Электротяжмаш "АД903У3" и тяговой преобразователь ENI-ZNT-200, изготовленный польским предприятием Enika sp. z o. o. Что касается МАЗ, я не имею особых познаний касательно их кузовов или других характеристик.

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Serious Sam · 21.01.2017 12:29 MSK
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Yury, do you possess any detailed technical specifications of these Crossley trolleybuses? If so, would you be so kind to send it to me in PM? I've got some specifications, but not very much. Thank you beforehand! //

Юрий, у Вас имеются детальные технические характеристики этих троллейбусов марки Crossley? Если так, будьте так любезны прислать мне их в ЛС? У меня есть некоторые технические характеристики, но не очень много. Заранее благодарен!

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Serious Sam · 20.01.2017 12:46 MSK
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Цитата (Сергей Мурашов, 20.01.2017):
> Внешний вид МТБ делали с оглядкой на американские автобусы, так что можно и посравнивать.

Well, actually, Crossley was a British company, not an American one. The МТБ-82 design was borrowed from General Motors TDH-51XX . //

Ну, вообще-то, Crossley это была Британская компания, не американская. А дизайн МТБ-82 был позаимствован с General Motors TDH-51XX.

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Serious Sam · 19.01.2017 23:38 MSK
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Crossley TSD42/1, a trolleybus designated for export (1948-1950). Only 14 vehicles were built. They had a 10,05m overall length with a 6,18m wheelbase and a Metropolitan Vickers MV2101 motor (69kw) with rheostatic powertrain, which was frequently installed on British AEC trolleybuses. Similar to the AEC vehicles, the maximal speed tolled about 47km/h.

Цитата (TimofeyKuz, 19.01.2017):
> Что-то от МТБ, что-то от танка.

It's an obscure idea to compare every foreign trolleybus to Soviet production. For example, the external look of LOWA W602 resembles LiAZ-677 a bit, but their similarity ceases after it.

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Serious Sam · 16.01.2017 17:39 MSK
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Hi! The same goes to the pioneer Geneva trolleybuses. This Saurer also used a shunt corbel to substitute the negative pole:
https://www.snotpg.ch/site/wp-content/up...sortie.jpg

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Serious Sam · 15.01.2017 13:09 MSK
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You're welcome!
Yes, you're right concerning the electricity hazard and therefore German engineers worked hard with insulation issues. As far as I remember, the Bratislava MANs even had their stansions insulated. Nothing was mentioned in my book regarding sole bipolar pantographs regarding their safety but the only specificity was that it had two cables inserted into one pole and a bipolar head was about twice as heavy as a conventional head. I guess BBC developers couldn't have made it frugal. I am not acknowledged how it was carried out in American or British trolleybuses since I do not have much material regarding their electric equipment, but I guess they also worked on insulation.

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Serious Sam · 11.01.2017 18:00 MSK
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Цитата (Михаил Черныш, 10.01.2017):
> Great! Did they go with passengers in such manner, or there were only technical rides?

Michail, yes, the depicted vehicle was exploited with passengers!

ЧКД-КТ4, the illustrated vehicles are actually Perth trolleybuses, not the Wellington ones ;-)
But nevertheless thanks for cool footage!

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Serious Sam · 10.01.2017 11:20 MSK
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That's right. In Netherlands and Switzerland trolleybuses occasionally utilized tram overhead wire and returned the "minus" by a shunt corbel attached to one of the rails like it's depicted over here: http://www.sfu.ca/person/dearmond/morph/Mystery.old_etb.jpg. I also remember seeing a 1930 Daimler-Benz/BBC trolleybus tested in Stuttgart with such scheme.

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Serious Sam · 09.01.2017 23:19 MSK
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Yeah, I suppose you're right! What as to Eberswalde, it was an experiment conducted by Brown, Boveri & Cie in 3 cities - Gera, Zwickau and Eberswalde. It did not justify the entrusted hopes - the bipolar heads were heavy, expensive and occasionally pulled down the overhead wires in case the pole fell down. Sole-pantograph trolleybuses also operated in Drammen, Norway. One vehicle is still rolling nowadays with the original scheme!

Trolleybuses with poles mounted on a single axis were also used in Bratislava, Lausanne and Koblenz (I presume). I am not acknowledged for what reason all of them had this construction installed but I read a text about the Bratislava vehicles which stated that it was done to enhance the overall manouerability of the trolleybus.

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Serious Sam · 09.01.2017 14:35 MSK
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Great vintage stuff. I bet this exotic footage will be interesting, too: http://transphoto.ru/photo/983304/

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Serious Sam · 09.01.2017 12:22 MSK
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As under the Wellington-Hutt Road Railway Improvement Act (1905) it was forbidden to build tram tracks, the Wellington city council decided on laying down overhead wires for the trolleybus. The only trolleybus which operated on a 1,2km fragmenton was an AEC 602.

AEC 602 is historically the first trolleybus by AEC. According to my sources, only 6 vehicles were produced - one for Wellington, three for Mexborough & Swinton and two for Birmingham (England). There were three body types which were mounted onto the chassis:
- Strachan & Brown B36R (London, UK) - for Mexborough & Swinton Traction Co
- Brush B26R / Brush Traction (Leicestershire, UK) - for Birmingham & Mexborough & Swinton Traction Co.
- DSC & Cousins & Cousins (Auckland, New Zealand) - for Wellington.

The depicted trolleybus was assembled in New Zealand. A high-floor carriage-like body was mounted onto a domestically-made body. The overall length tolled 7,54m with a width of 2,28m. The electric equipment was supplied by by Dick, Kerr & Co (Kilmarnock, Scotland). It featured a 6-position manual master controller and the poles mounted on a sole axis. The traction motor, made by AEC, gave an output of 20kw (30hp) and a maximal speed of 27 km/h on the last master controller position. The overall capacity tolled about 40-42 passengers. Tillable ventlights were used for air ventilation, nothing is known regarding heating. This trolleybus was treated as firewood with discomfort engaged.

Having the chassis No. 602003, it was enrolled into service on September 29, 1924 and remained until May 30, 1932. Unfortunately I currently do not possess more information about the specifications of this trolleybus.

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Serious Sam · 08.01.2017 19:30 MSK
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Little is known about the trolleybus operation in Gießen. The trolleybus infrastructure was assembled about 1937 and operated from 1941 to 1968. In 1941, the first six trolleybuses (No. 1-6) were purchased and delivered. Actually, two of them are displayed on the given picture.

They were Henschels with a "Normgroße I" chassis (HS 6000) and had Credé bodies notable for streamline body angles. The body was traditionally made of nickel-plated steel. The body length was 8,805m with a 4,25 wheelbase with doors in overhangs and a standard interaxle motor displacement. The front doors were pneumatic, while the rear ones were hand-operated. The passenger capacity tolled 50 with 27 passengers seated.

Very little is known about the electric equipment of these vehicles. My only source states the 1940 Henschels had AEG equipment and rheostatic powertrain. I presume, the motor was USC2270 or 227A, but I can't claim that for sure. Unfortunately, I do not possess the chapter of Obusse in Deutschland about this town, but I'll try to request it from my colleague abroad.

I do not know exactly their years of operation, but all Henschels with Credé bodies were assembled in 1940 and were stringently alive by 1953.

Hence, that's all for now.
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