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Pavlov101 · Galaţi · 19.04.2024 12:25 MSK
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@Ymtram - It used to offer, because trams don't run anymore to steelworks.
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Frazzer · Brno · 22.06.2023 17:06 MSK
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44: 2x Astra Autentic
7: 2x Astra Autentic, 1x Duewag ZGT6
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Zxs91 · Praga · 21.06.2023 22:16 MSK
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Jezdily Düwagy i na linkách 7 a 44?
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Grind · 23.04.2023 02:28 MSK
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Александр Козлов · Sankt Petersburg · 05.02.2022 00:52 MSK
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Скорее объёмы производства и штатная численность..
Про "рынок" это сарказм.
Трамвай имеет некую черту после которой он в любом случае дешевле, чем автобус, будь то капитализм или социализм. Условно 40 000 МОП (метров одиночного пути, используемого в маршрутном движении) и 60 пассажирских вагонов. Заводу со штатной численностью более 600 сотрудников смысла всех вывозить автобусом нет.
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kry177 · 05.02.2022 00:44 MSK
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Ну металлургический завод вроде бы никуда не делся.. Но вот способ доставки рабочей сил, видимо, и правда был отрегулирован рынком.
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Александр Козлов · Sankt Petersburg · 05.02.2022 00:20 MSK
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Похоже, ранее здесь было градообразующее предприятие (судя по размаху конечной). Ну до того как рынок всё отрегулировал.
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Ecliptics · Sankt Petersburg · 04.02.2022 23:06 MSK
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Выглядит так, как будто трамвай в Припяти оказался. Всё такое заброшенное(
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Pavlov101 · Galaţi · 18.07.2020 14:11 MSK
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@Иван Р. да
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Янис Витолс · Tver · 13.04.2020 18:39 MSK
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Мини-ЛТ-10
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1173 R · Lipsk · 13.04.2020 18:03 MSK
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Zitat (Yury LRTA, 13.04.2020):
> I wonder what the reason for the height difference between the trailers was? And why it is always the last trailer that is riding lower.

There are various reasons for the height of the trailer. The two trailers on this picture come from different delivery series. In 1980/81 there was also an update with various small changes. But I also saw pictures where the trailers are the same height or the higher one hangs at the end.
Maybe it has something to do with the profile of the steel tires.
The cars were also very poorly made, which can also lead to different heights.
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Ymtram · East Haven - Branford · 13.04.2020 03:12 MSK
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Цитата (1173 R, 12.04.2020):
> I think in this picture of the 312 you can see very well that the car has no motors in the bogie.

Actually you might be right! I didn't look there at first. So the long-standing stereotype might be incorrect.

Amazing that these trains actually operated on the Poarta SIDEX (Arcelor Mittal) line with a grade. Here is a picture of the 3-car train operating on the Line 3:
https://transphoto.org/photo/800068/

I wonder what the reason for the height difference between the trailers was? And why it is always the last trailer that is riding lower.
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1173 R · Lipsk · 12.04.2020 23:30 MSK
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Zitat (Yury LRTA, 12.04.2020):
> that operated behind motors in standard 2-car consists were motorless by definition.

I think in this picture of the 312 you can see very well that the car has no motors in the bogie. I saw these trains in August 1990 and also went with them. That was a long time ago, but I didn't write down any motorization of the trailers in my notebook.
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Ymtram · East Haven - Branford · 12.04.2020 23:11 MSK
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Цитата (focus1965, 12.04.2020):
> https://transphoto.org/photo/1323571/?aid=6255

The question is whether this trailer worked as the 2nd car in the 3-car consist, and thus was possibly altered and motorized. All regular Timiș trailers that operated behind motors in standard 2-car consists were motorless by definition.
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focus1965 · Antwerpia · 12.04.2020 22:37 MSK
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I just posted a picture of trailer 307.
The specialists can find out if motorization was possible / was present.
I suppose that the trailers were delivered without motorization, but that doesn't mean that the local workshop could come up with something. But that didn't guarantee that it would ever have worked...

https://transphoto.org/photo/1323571/?aid=6255
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Keith Kaizer · Sankt Petersburg · 12.04.2020 22:06 MSK
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Отсылочка к ЧС4
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андрюха · Kamieńskie · 12.04.2020 19:53 MSK
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Магнитогорс на минималках))
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Александр Vl · Vladivostok · 12.04.2020 19:52 MSK
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Эка диво-дивное. Каких только вагонов не бывает. Потрясающая коллекция конечно.
С уважением.
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Ymtram · East Haven - Branford · 12.04.2020 17:22 MSK
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Цитата (1173 R, 12.04.2020):
> I think that's a mistake. They are all motorless trailers. The trains run very slowly and have hardly climbed uphill. In Iasi it was tested for a couple of years, but has partly stopped on the slopes. The motorcars were underpowered. However, in 1988-1991, so many motorcars were not ready to drive that you had to help yourself.

Galaţi has some terrain issues, especially on the industrial park lines to the east and tho the west, including a lengthy grade on the line to Arcelor Mittal for which 3-car trains were no doubt designed for. The classic motor-trailer-trailer consist would have a power problem under regular conditions, and such consists were never used elsewhere in Romania. Provided the Galaţi's terrian and the fact that in all pictures of 3-car trains from Galaţi the 1st trailer is higher than the 2nd trailer - thus the suspicion of local alteration of the trailers is often mentioned with regard to these Galaţi trains. It is my recollection, also visible in some pictures, that some original Timiș trailers in Romanian cities had a lower ride than motors (but not all of them). Something to ask locals about...
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Иван Р · Engels · 12.04.2020 16:43 MSK
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"Баркас" - маршрутка?
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