Comments to the photos from Mainz (trolleybus)

MAN MKE had Siemens D602e and DV602A motors in the rear overhang since they had a bus monocoque body, but the motors had 90-100KW/h output. Exported MKE trolleybuses in Argentine had Kiepe L326 (96kw).

Cheers!

In the MAN commercial vehicle guidebook "Leistung und Weg: Zur Geschichte des MAN Nutzfahrzeugbaus", MAN MKE series are referred to have monocoque bodies without chassis. IMHO, the Kassböhrer factory only contributed in building the body (as in case with ÜHIIIs trolleybus, where Uerdingen made the [frameless] body and Henschel - only the transmission components). I suspect the motor power is also wrong, as two sources state MKE 2 had 90 KW/h Siemens motors. This data is accurate and precise. Please correct.

p.s. MKE trolleybuses' length varied: this machine has a longer front overhang than the MKE 3 which worked in Rosario (Argentina).

Cheers!

Sold to Kapfenberg in 1964!

Цитата (Роман Васильев, 19.08.2011):
> Just keep what I said in mind. That's how you use modals in the past.

OK. But please, remember, I didn't have good opportunity to study it... But again I tell not to critisize me for wrong using of modal verbs.

Цитата (VentuRi, 20.08.2011):
> А на каких мощностях строились троллейбусы? Неужели на автозаводе в Турине?

Наверное. Их было немало - вся Италия, в Германии тоже были, Франции и Чехии. Фиаты (троллейбусы) делались на "Fiat Bus".

А на каких мощностях строились троллейбусы? Неужели на автозаводе в Турине?

Just keep what I said in mind. That's how you use modals in the past.

Sorry, but my English language skills are quite primitive, so don't critisize me for this...

...it could have had... / ...it had...

I suppose, that he could have TIBB BBC GLM-1273A motor or Alstom, but I'm not sure. I've got an Italian text about these trolleybuses, I'll check it and tell the correct data.

Цитата (Бараш Алексей, 23.07.2010):
> Karosserie: Kässbohrer, Ulm/Donau.
> Elektrik: Siemens. 110 kWh.

Actually, not at all. Here's what I have found:

Chassis: MAN
Body: Kässbohrer Ulm
Electric: BBC, Siemens, Kiepe Electric
Motor: Secheron L326
Power: 96 KW
Max speed: 60 km\h

If you want more technical data, please contact me.

These were nice trolleybuses I suppose. Don't you know the dimensions of these MAN MKE 2 trolleys? It seems to me they're not over 10 meters. As I know MAN MK E3 had 9,75 m. And what electric motors did they have?

By the way, why are the wheel arches so big? Did those MAN's have air suspension? And what's those things on the trolley-poles? Did they have a function of rising and lowering the poles distantly? Well, I like exploring German trolleybuses, but this is a very interesting trolleybus. It's so pity that these fine trolleys didn't work in the Soviet Union! These look nice and durable, and we in the 60-s - 70-s had ugly koffins on wheels!

Конечно, это Вам не Липецк, где почти все троллейбусы с ШУ, но никто ими не пользуется. Дескать, КС в плохом состоянии, хотя на самом деле, КС - отличная, а причина "вожжей" - лень...

Эти будут получше наших Киев-2...

КРАСАВЦЫ-своё время!

Романтика.

Обожаю подобные фото. Лучше всего получился Opel на переднем плане...

> Look for the big distance of the wires, because the track will also use by tramcars with pantographs!

Возможно, это стоило бы написать в примечании к снимку, а не к транспортному средству?

Интересно КС сделана, как я понимаю, одна и на трамвай и на троллейбус

Linie 21 (not 7). Sorry!

Нос чем-то напоминает ТМРП

Diese Obus sieht aus wie russische Strassenbahn "TMRP"
http://transphoto.ru/photo/199066/