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Here can be played the game “find a tram”, it took me some time to finally see the vehicle :)

Thank you for the detailed answer! I was sure that trams had electrical light from the very beginning - but was wrong.

We should not call current collector of trams "pantograph". In Russia people often use this word for the collector of trains and moderm trams, like those coastal trams, but that is still wrong. "Pantograph" is actually a mechanism where parts move parallel. Such mechanisms were used to hold rulers on large drawing boards, and now are used in "plug doors" in buses and trains (I don't like such doors, but they are a good example).

Quote (Евгений Лысый, 03.10.2022):


> Current collector is like was one of Russian and Soviet trams, and still in use in some cities, moved from old trams: https://transphoto.org/photo/1671238/ .

A lot of tramway companies in Russia originated under European influence and with ditto vehicles, especially from Belgium and Germany. In the early years of electric traction, there was a lot of experiments with pantographs. By then, one was more successful (or practical) than the other. I could write a whole story about this, but this would lead me too far. I understand that the tramway in Novosibirsk was inaugurated in 1933/1934, and at that time this type of pantograph was popular.

https://transphoto.org/photo/1557280/?gid=7730

In Ghent it was also used till 1974!

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> Headlight are like gas headlights of antic cars. Or what are cylinders above the headlights for?

The practical application of bulbs (on trams) came much later. By 1901, electric light bulbs did exist, but they were rare. Apart from that: the application of electricity came to cities thanks to trams, and the electricity supply served to run the trams. Also, don't expect the first electric trams to have lights inside. The first trams were copies of horse-drawn trams, which were themselves successors to horse-drawn carriages. They were certainly not comfortable: there was neither heating nor lighting.

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> What is the air pipe near the corner of the car for?

No idea.

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> What is the box under the middle windshield for?

As mentioned above: the first electric trams were copies of horse-drawn carriages. These were fully open, but very soon they decided to close them (partially or completely) anyway.
This is what this type of tram originally looked like:

https://transphoto.org/photo/1574640/?vid=485927

As you can see, a solution had to be found for the controls: so this is the box you see.
There have been a lot of solutions to close the originally open trams.

From the same first series of trams, this variant is also known:

https://transphoto.org/photo/1664419/

Until the end of its existence (1990), this company was known for its endless creative renovations to its trams ... and these are just minor details.
Its successor (De Lijn) rebuilt the original coastal tram for many more years into an almost unrecognisable...

https://transphoto.org/photo/1322019/?vid=220493
https://transphoto.org/photo/1425223/?vid=221059

I realise it's a long answer, but I find tram history a fascinating subject, which I am happy to share...

Токоприёмник как был у советских вагонов, и теперь используется в некоторых городах, переставлен со старых вагонов: https://transphoto.org/photo/1671238/ .

Фары похожи на ацетиленовые фары старинных автомобилей. Или что это за цилиндры над фарами?

Для чего воздушная труба с краном возле угла вагона?

Для чего коробка под средним окном впереди?

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Current collector is like was one of Russian and Soviet trams, and still in use in some cities, moved from old trams: https://transphoto.org/photo/1671238/ .

Headlight are like gas headlights of antic cars. Or what are cylinders above the headlights for?

What is the air pipe near the corner of the car for?

What is the box under the middle windshield for?

The real number of this car is A 17850. On the photo (and the car) is marked 4268 (III).
4268 is fake and to make it complicate: a 4268 (II) still exist in Charleroi https://transphoto.ru/vehicle/359323/ and the A 14723 in Charleroi https://transphoto.ru/vehicle/364386/ is the only real 4268 (I) which also still exist !

В базе данных опубликована новая ссылка на видео:

Steam tramway of Belgium , ASVI Lobbes -Thuin

Мы поставим тебе вагон в вагон, чтобы ты ехал в вагоне, пока едешь в вагоне.

Цитата (BorisB, 02.12.2018):
> И опять ни одного пассажира в салоне, как и здесь.
> http://transphoto.ru/photo/1163401/

Вам же написали, что там это разворот по укороченному маршруту, вагон находится на промежуточном кольце, которое представляет собой петлю вокруг квартала. Откуда пассажиры возьмутся на кольце, которое не задействовано регулярно в маршрутном движении? Торонтский трамвай, между прочим, второй по пассажиропотоку среди всех трамвайных и ЛРТшных сетей Северной Америки: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_No..._ridership

It's a museumline. The trams runs only on saterday and sunday, but 1x in the year, special journeys are organised for tram enthousiasts and also in the evening. It's well organised, with special light, because it's completely dark on this spot.

И опять ни одного пассажира в салоне, как и здесь.
http://transphoto.ru/photo/1163401/
Это что, не линейные рейсы что ли или вот такая популярность возрождаемого трамвая?

Thank u for the photo, Sebastian. Livery reminds Toronto's PCCs.

Благодарю вас за фото, Себастьян. Окраска напоминает торонтские PCC.

Agree with you)

Awesome!

По превью и фото подумал, что макет))

Part of the route is a former tram coming from Charleroi. The tram has there a trace of 1000mm. The other part is a former railway line. This was rebuilt to 1000mm.
More information about this great museum train you can find here:
http://www.asvi.be/fr/index/index.htm

Можете рассказать про эту музейную систему?
Я смотрел по карте и не могу понять действует ли линия в городе и за городом. И какая колея 1000 мм?