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San Francisco Bay Area, California cable car Nr 57
  San Francisco Bay AreaCalifornia cable car Nr 57 
California Street
Safety is an issue everywhere (and certainly for tram enthusiasts) but this does not apply to cable cars. Passengers are expected to hang out of the moving vehicles when it is busy. Paradoxically, visiting a depot is prohibited because of the many dangers...

Autor: focus1965 · Antwerpia           Data: 17 czerwca 2022 r., piątek

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Opublikowano 16.07.2022 17:16 MSK
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San Francisco Bay Area, California cable car Nr 57

Lokacja:San Francisco
Zajezdnia:Muni Cable Cars
Od...:10.1957
Model:California cable car
Wyprodukowany:1914
Stan obecny:W bieżącej eksploatacji
Rodzaj:Liniowy
Notatka:10.1957 ex 11; 09.1957 ex 57; 07.01.1952 ex Cal Cable
Builder: California Street Cable Railroad Co.

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Model:Canon EOS 80D
Date and Time:17.06.2022 11:12
Exposure Time:1/250 sec
Aperture Value:8
ISO Speed:100
Exposure Bias:–1/3 EV
Focal Length:55 mm
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27.07.2022 19:23 MSK
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Ymtram · East Haven - Branford
Zdjęć: 20603 · Moderator materiałów nieautorskich / Moderator zdjęć / Redaktor ogólny / Redaktor wiadomości / Tłumaczenie strony (EN)
> Safety is an issue everywhere (and certainly for tram enthusiasts) but this does not apply to cable cars. Passengers are expected to hang out of the moving vehicles when it is busy. Paradoxically, visiting a depot is prohibited because of the many dangers...

It is assumed that the paradoxical (good choice of a word!) clash of safety attitudes around cable cars, and absence of safety requirements is explained by the same factor, that defines... safety requirements elsewhere. The insurance. Or the insurance rates to be exact. Which are higher for cable cars thus providing for relaxed safety rules, and lower for other modes of transportation thus providing for strict safety rules.

To be fair, I just repeated a 20+ years old stereotype that I heard somewhere within the industry long time ago. I was never able to confirm the insurance-rate theory with MUNI. However, I know that cable car personnel enjoys many 'excuses' as per their union due to heavy pressure jobs. One of such 'excuses' are relaxed requirements regarding safety responsibility. That is if a customer falls off the cable car, the staff is not responsible.
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27.07.2022 21:25 MSK
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focus1965 · Antwerpia
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Quote (Ymtram (Yury LRTA), 27.07.2022):
> That is if a customer falls off the cable car, the staff is not responsible.

Should I lose my balance with my heavy photo bag, I will of course not hold the staff responsible but rather the MUNI.
This does not apply in a depot: this is not public territory and cannot be compared to a vehicle.
For the first time, I did indeed just fall down somewhere: the sun was perpendicular and I just stumbled (on a pavement) on 'something' that I didn't see (because of the bright light). Stupid of me, luckily my photo equipment was not damaged and I have long since recovered, although I didn't really look like much the first few days...
I am "sporty" enough to blame myself and not, like Calimero, blame others.
But in the case of a falling passenger from the MUNI, I don't think there are many judges who will blame the passenger, especially when this was his assigned place.
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28.07.2022 01:14 MSK
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Ymtram · East Haven - Branford
Zdjęć: 20603 · Moderator materiałów nieautorskich / Moderator zdjęć / Redaktor ogólny / Redaktor wiadomości / Tłumaczenie strony (EN)
While on the subject:

> Among U.S. mass transportation systems the cable cars have the most accidents per year and per vehicle mile, with 126 accidents and 151 injuries reported in the 10 years ending 2013.In the three years ending 2013 the city paid some $8 million to settle four dozen cable car accident claims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Franci...0claims
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