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I do not think it is Chongjin, because all terminal loops in Chongjin are paved with concrete. Here, half the road is dirt

Yes, somewhere in DPRK

Instead, they just painted 'mind the gap' on the platform.

Quote (Gamerdgl, 02.02.2022):
> photo rights

Not applicable; all photos taken before 1947 or published before 1957 are public domain
Since it has clearly been published before; their 'policy' has no legal standing

They actually built these:
https://i.postimg.cc/KjCkMvk3/image.png
Look at the bumper, it matches its design 100%

Copies of American "Opla" seats
Kim apparently asked them to install these seats: standing is more healthy than sitting.

https://www.donga.com/news/Politics/arti...34656/1

Quote (Gamerdgl, 14.12.2021):
> Chollima 82

Actually, it may be something else: a Songdowon. Songdowon #102-106 have the same higher windowline while retaining a very similar body to the Chollima-82 (because they are based on it). But clearly, this vehicle has gone through an overhaul, so it is impossible to tell.

This is #1166
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bcd4e6/106...379040/
Same slogan on front and side, same little spotlight on the roof.
In both 2006 satellite images, there appears to be a third articulated trolleybus, placed where the three single trolleybuses are now.

Gamerdgl has a new theory, that the line at Jonchon runs into the 2.8 General Machine Plant (aka Machine Plant Managed by Ri Jong Ok). The 10/25/2021 satellite shows poles on one side into the factory and in this 2008 visit, https://nonproliferation.org/wp-content/...t-2.jpg
there is what appears to be a mounting bracket on an arm of one of the poles in the background, in this marked position: https://nonproliferation.org/identifying...plants/
And in the plant, some poles are probably obscured by the thick layer of trees.

It's a relatively new system, it only received its trolleybuses in the 2010s.

Kimchaek had no trolleybuses in 2018 (Google Earth). It received two 'new' ones in 2019.
The poles got changed to new poles: https://postimg.cc/f3d94h0c
Although the wires are still very bad.

Also, there is good evidence of trolleybus in Jonchon County. A torrential rain destroyed the depot roof and two trolleybuses are visible.
40°38'20.16"N 126°26'31.37"E

The opening date can be verified: https://unibook.unikorea.go.kr/material/...-194235

This is the south Korean repository of a Rodong Sinmun article, (which unfortunately, only searches titles) and says that the Onsong-Wangjaesan trolleybus was opened. The article is dated 16th January, 1996, so the trolleybus probably opened a day earlier.

I think, this is a Chollima-82 with local body replacement. The middle door has been removed and replaced with a window of different size, the window line has been shifted up slightly, the rear glass has been replaced with metal in the same shape and about everything else is the same, for example the small window behind the rear door.

Thanks to @gamerdgl , this photo has been located by video evidence. It is taken at 39° 0'52.98"N 125°45'50.56"E looking towards south-east.
The indicator reads '새로만든차' which would mean new vehicle. Judging by its position, it is been transported to trolleybus line 4 from presumably one of the department store lines.

Now, it is said that the Chollima-321 has autonomous course, so I'm not sure what's going on here. Maybe the battery ran out.

The Nampo trolleybus has again been captured in motion on satellite.
2 trolleybuses leaving depot plus 1 near the east loop
However, comparing 12/24/2020 with 5/6/2021 shows all other trolleybuses parked in the same position.
I doubt that they had parking skills to park the trolleybuses in the exact same position between 6 months. Perhaps this would explain the number of standard buses in Nampo, seen on all roads, covering the whole trolleybus line.
I can't say for sure, but a bus parked close to the trolleybuses looks like the solar panel bus, it has a very reflective roof

New Google earth image 3/17/2021 shows at most three trolleybus in depot (2 new, 1 old), none are in service. Only white and green buses with air conditioning are running.

Loop around the city park was demolished between 2000 and 2006, these photos infront of the building on the south east corner show supporting wires that were removed during those years. (2 photos)
http://wikimapia.org/21044447/Anju-Depar...1859721

Anju also suffered a devastating flood in 2012.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXEV2QmGihg
It would appear buses had already started replacing the trolleybus there.

This network most likely destroyed as a result of flooding in 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwr3szd_vWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-kNWJBN68
no traces are present in current Kumgol 1-dong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwr3szd_vWE

Nonetheless, the north loop still appears to exist

I believe a trolleybus was spotted running in yesterdays 8pm news. http://uriminzokkiri.com/index.php?ptype...987#pos
A vehicle is seen at 25:18, moving on the road behind the square on the eastern branch. The vehicle is very odd, and appears to have only 1 door at the front. Roof equipment appears to be there, so it is probably not a bus (on February 17 news a green bus with air conditioning was seen running on the line). It appears to have black or glazed windows.

Quote (Gamerdgl, 09.04.2021):
> wrong way

I do understand it is the wrong way, but the distinctive poles are seen on that side of the road. Within Sinhung-up electricity is carried on wood poles, it is very likely that the 2 poles are trolleybus poles with their different concrete construction. It can't 100% confirm it, but makes it significantly more likely to be a trolleybus.

I found no videos or photos from state media about Jonchon. Of course, the former system in Kumgol did not really have a visible loop at the train station either. So it could exist and there is probably secrecy around the plant because of its military manufacture.

I tried to draw the line at Sudong :https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1...sharing
unfortunately, the definite section is only 800 meters long and given the date (2011) other parts may already be partially dismantled. Logically, it should run to the coal mine but there are only few poles on the side of the road there...

There is a video of Sinhung here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgCboUTuAw8
At past 5 minutes, you see distinctive trolleybus poles at the south loop. Trucks are carrying passengers. While the video doesn't show the overhead, it is obviously not the electricity poles earlier in the video and must be a trolleybus pole.